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diogofrp Alphabet Soup Tier
Posts : 203 Rep : 4 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Fri May 17, 2013 12:58 pm | |
| They're back in.(For now)
I wanna test how they are, if they don't go "too far",I won't remove them, | |
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kingtrace Tesla
Posts : 441 Rep : 28 Join date : 2012-02-23 Age : 2023 Location : Flurry League
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Fri May 17, 2013 1:17 pm | |
| We're adding a new rule to Don't Be Stupid Clause: No more inanimate objects. So far we have two rocks, a torpedo, and fire. While these things can be interesting if worked into a concept, we will no longer be accepting Pokemon whose concept reads "A rock that's a on fire." or "Floating meteor with poison on it." These things are not alive, and are not Pokemon. If you could see it, catch, live with it, and not realize it was alive for several days, there's a problem.
Note, we will not be removing Pokemon that already exist that violate this rule, but we sure as hell won't take anymore. Also, if you're one of the people I've refrenced, we'd appriciate it if you'd expand your concept. | |
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Invalid Zygarde Tier
Posts : 767 Rep : 77 Join date : 2011-12-02 Age : 33 Location : Invalid Location
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Sat May 18, 2013 5:05 pm | |
| Changes have been made to En-Ghoul and Electricicle, En-Ghoul has lost the ability to have Drain Punch and Shadow Sneak on the same set, Electricicle's special attack was lowered from 140 to 118, it's special defense has been raised from 70 to 80. | |
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Maxedofhaxed Inspired
Posts : 122 Rep : 6 Join date : 2012-02-23 Age : 26
| Subject: Temp Discussion Sat May 18, 2013 7:47 pm | |
| diogo im pretty sure fire wouldbe 1/4x | |
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Invalid Zygarde Tier
Posts : 767 Rep : 77 Join date : 2011-12-02 Age : 33 Location : Invalid Location
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Sat May 18, 2013 8:48 pm | |
| Maxed, fix your caps please, they're both pretty broken. Lycanite is definitely going to go uber as of now, and I'm not even going to implement the other one. | |
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diogofrp Alphabet Soup Tier
Posts : 203 Rep : 4 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Sat May 18, 2013 9:05 pm | |
| - Maxedofhaxed wrote:
- diogo im pretty sure fire wouldbe 1/4x
It had Flash Fire at that time x) | |
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kingtrace Tesla
Posts : 441 Rep : 28 Join date : 2012-02-23 Age : 2023 Location : Flurry League
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Sun May 19, 2013 9:36 pm | |
| Diogo and Steel, we are not allowing you to make anymore CAPs until the following already implemented caps get an improved concept, meaning it must be realistically alive and somehow stands apart from inanimate objects. It also must have a concept that does not include a name of any currently existing Pokemon.
Diogo: Mevenetalo, Explocanus
Steel Dragons: Thramo, Goulia, Cometroc (Torkedo could also use improvement, but isn't required.)
Please understand we are tying to make this a thread for real Pokemon, and try not to be offended. | |
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Invalid Zygarde Tier
Posts : 767 Rep : 77 Join date : 2011-12-02 Age : 33 Location : Invalid Location
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Sun May 19, 2013 11:23 pm | |
| I created some fan art. Here Torkedoe: https://2img.net/h/i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc249/Toke2000/IMG_0128_zpsf5e7c80d.jpg Thramo: https://s215.photobucket.com/user/Toke2000/media/IMG_0130_zpsb1e2ae09.jpg.html Comatroc: https://s215.photobucket.com/user/Toke2000/media/IMG_0144_zpsa9f87663.jpg.html Comatroc without spoilers: https://2img.net/h/i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc249/Toke2000/IMG_0136_zps9db78edd.jpg
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Frost Sableye Tier
Posts : 359 Rep : 50 Join date : 2012-02-23
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Sun May 19, 2013 11:52 pm | |
| /offtopic
That is probably the ugliest wallpaper I have ever seen in my life. | |
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Invalid Zygarde Tier
Posts : 767 Rep : 77 Join date : 2011-12-02 Age : 33 Location : Invalid Location
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Sun May 19, 2013 11:54 pm | |
| It's the ugliest wallpaper I see every day of my life. | |
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Frost Sableye Tier
Posts : 359 Rep : 50 Join date : 2012-02-23
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 12:48 am | |
| So I had a new idea i wanted to test on you guys: Name: Invalid's Wallpaper Type: Ground/Water Stats: HP:600 Attack:600 Special Attack:600 Speed:600 Defense:600 Special Defense:600 Ability:Intimidate Moves - Spoiler:
Scary Face Sketch Mean Look Glare Confuse Ray Flash Judgement
Concept: The supreme being of the universe, lurking in our host's bedroom. It's horrifying appearance strikes fear into the hearts of all who behold it. It can be witnessed here, battling a Thramo https://s215.photobucket.com/user/Toke2000/media/IMG_0130_zpsb1e2ae09.jpg.html | |
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steel dragons Arceus Tier
Posts : 539 Rep : 32 Join date : 2012-02-23 Location : Spearmint Pillar
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 12:50 am | |
| @Kingtrace: I'm not going to pursue improving Comatroc any further right now, and I don't really care if it is never implemented at all. I will improve Thramo's and Goulia's concept though; I should have them done pretty soon in the near future.
EDIT: I just edited Thramo's and Goulia's concepts. Thramo's new concept is with its chart though. | |
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kingtrace Tesla
Posts : 441 Rep : 28 Join date : 2012-02-23 Age : 2023 Location : Flurry League
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 12:52 am | |
| Poor Thramo, as if it didn't have enough problems with being a miniture black hole, now it has to battle what I can only assume is God in wallpaper form? Mysterious ways, indeed. | |
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Frost Sableye Tier
Posts : 359 Rep : 50 Join date : 2012-02-23
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 12:55 am | |
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kingtrace Tesla
Posts : 441 Rep : 28 Join date : 2012-02-23 Age : 2023 Location : Flurry League
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 10:03 am | |
| Alright, thank you, Steel. As long as you don't intend to have Cometroc implemented without improving the concept, these are fine changes. Thanks again. | |
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diogofrp Alphabet Soup Tier
Posts : 203 Rep : 4 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 10:58 am | |
| I'm not editting anything else until Explocanus' post is fixed. It was alright, then I editted it and it went berserk. I can't fcking get it to separate different lines when I click Enter. I can't understand why, it's the first time this happens. | |
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diogofrp Alphabet Soup Tier
Posts : 203 Rep : 4 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 12:47 pm | |
| Done on both.
Since Meventalno is now alive, Shift Gear came out and Shell Smash went in. If SmashPower(Shell Smash + Cosmic Power) proves to make it broken, Invalid will make them both "event" moves so they won't be able to be in the same set. | |
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kingtrace Tesla
Posts : 441 Rep : 28 Join date : 2012-02-23 Age : 2023 Location : Flurry League
| Subject: Temp Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 4:44 pm | |
| Alright, thank you for fixing that, Diogo. | |
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steel dragons Arceus Tier
Posts : 539 Rep : 32 Join date : 2012-02-23 Location : Spearmint Pillar
| Subject: Temp Move To Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 10:20 pm | |
| @Invalid: Should have given Rockug Head Charge - Quote :
- The user charges its head into its target, using its powerful guard hair. It also damages the user a little
(from Serebii) | |
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Invalid Zygarde Tier
Posts : 767 Rep : 77 Join date : 2011-12-02 Age : 33 Location : Invalid Location
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Mon May 20, 2013 11:27 pm | |
| - steel dragons wrote:
- @Invalid: Should have given Rockug Head Charge
- Quote :
- The user charges its head into its target, using its powerful guard hair. It also damages the user a little
(from Serebii) I already gave it Shaymin's Signature move, I don't feel right taking Bouffalant's too. Also I think of their face as being pretty important to them and wouldn't think they'd want to damage it. And as a signature move, it's not really beneficial to the Pokemon so it's kind of unnecessary. All that said, the move does make sense, the description fits it well, I just don't want to use it, also I moved your post to CAP Discussion. | |
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diogofrp Alphabet Soup Tier
Posts : 203 Rep : 4 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Tue May 21, 2013 7:28 am | |
| Name: Caleal Preferred Sprite: Lillipup Concept: A species of dog Pokémon who walks in search of a master. His mane is covered in a grassy fur that can conduct and amplify the electricity generated by it's body. It's fur looks like yellow leaves in the autumn. When it stands up, it's 1m high. It's fur can harden to form spikes. It's a gentle and loving creature, but will become ferocious if it's master is threatned. His paws look like ordinary dog paws, but can sprout hard claws when provoked. It's tail does not have a specific size and can change at will. Type: Grass/Electric - Base Stats:
Hp: 70 Atk: 95 Def: 100 Sp.Atk: 85 Sp.Def: 90 Speed: 100
BST: 540
Ability: Intimidate or Static. - Moves:
1.Work Up 2.Solarbeam 3.Wood Hammer 4.Leech Seed 5.Giga Drain 6.Thunder 7.Thunderbolt 8.Ingrain 9.Thunder Wave 10.Harden 11.Pin Missile 12.Spikes 13.Electro Ball 14.Charge 15.Fusion Bolt 16.Iron Tail 17.Leaf Storm 18.Roar 19.Metal Claw 20.Hyper Voice
This is not a yet made cap, i'm actually putting here so we can discuss it I won't make the chart because Ik i'll probably have to modify it.
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steel dragons Arceus Tier
Posts : 539 Rep : 32 Join date : 2012-02-23 Location : Spearmint Pillar
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Tue May 21, 2013 8:47 am | |
| @Diogo: I think that the best abilities for it would be Chlorophyll, Lightningrod, and Intimidate. You could also potentially give it Rough Skin, based on Caleal's descripton. I don't really think that you need to lower its speed if it is a Chlorophyll user, as its attacking stats are not the greatest in the world. For example, Venusaur has a better special attack than Caleal, and Sawsbuck has a higher attack than Caleal.
Also, I think that it could have Sunny Day added to its movepool over Harden, and I don't see how it can learn 'arm' moves (like Needle Arm), since it is like a dog.You could probably add a move like a 'tail' move like Dragon Tail or Tail Slap over Needle Arm. Also, Roar would make sense here as well. | |
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diogofrp Alphabet Soup Tier
Posts : 203 Rep : 4 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Tue May 21, 2013 9:36 am | |
| Needle Arm was because it can grow spikes on itself, but true, he doesn't have arms, so it's off for roar. A tail move, he already had Iron Tail though. And Caleal's speed lowerage would come in trade for an upping in attack/sp.atk. Also, Sawsbuck and Venusaur have nothing to do with this, they are Normal/Grass and Grass/Poison respectively, while this Pokémon is Electric/Grass, with acess to moves like Thunderbolt, Volt Tackle, Fusion Bolt, Power Whip and Solarbeam. And to top that off, he has Growth, which has a double effect in the sun and doubles both Atk and Sp.Atk, and his defs aren't bad either. It's a mixed attacker(kind of), as you can see by his moveset having STAB Phy and Sp moves that are very strong. Caleal: - Hp: 70
- Atk: 95
- Def: 100
- Sp.Atk: 85
- Sp.Def: 90
- Speed: 100
- BST: 540
Venusaur: - HP: 80
- Atk: 82
- Def: 83
- SpA: 100
- SpD: 100
- Spe: 80
- BST: 525
Sawsbuck: - HP: 80
- Atk: 100
- Def: 70
- SpA: 60
- SpD: 70
- Spe: 95
- BST: 475
The difference between it and Venusaur, for example, is it has no way to stop an opponent to get free turns unless it's lucky with Thunder Wave. It has way batter defenses than any of those 2, and worse even, it can actually do both of their jobs. But tbh, his Phy set doesn't have Horn Leech like Sawsbuck and his Sp set doesn't have Sleep Powder like Venusaur has. Sawsbuck is weak to Fight, Bug, Poison, Ice, Fire and Flying. Venusaur is weak to Ice, Fire, Flying and Psychic. Caleal is weak to Ice, Fire, Bug and Poison. The bold text is on the types that are common(attacking). Heatran, Mamoswine/Weavile and Scizor are examples of it. And lots of Pokémon non-STAB attacks with those types. To add up to that, most caps atm run fire, which eats through any of those. | |
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SupahGassy Inspired
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| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Tue May 21, 2013 2:03 pm | |
| if you're going to give it Chlorophyll either drop its bulkiness down or drop its speed way lower. Due to its typing its STAB power whip or other moves such as superpower give it the ability to KO two other weather starters. tyranitar and politoed and give it the upper hand at allowing it to keep sun up later in the game. to compensate for that i say you either drop its speed lower or drop the bulkiness because it should be able to be easily outsped outside of sun like venusaur can be and base 100 speed doubled is kind of trolly along with the attack stat you gave it. it's stats are better than that of both sawsbuck and venusaur.... | |
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Invalid Zygarde Tier
Posts : 767 Rep : 77 Join date : 2011-12-02 Age : 33 Location : Invalid Location
| Subject: Re: CAP Discussion Tue May 21, 2013 3:28 pm | |
| Diogo, your CAP is so overpowered, that I have no recommendation for how to balance it. Also, try to limit yourself to one signature move. Volt Tackle, Needle Arm, and Fusion Bolt are each signature moves, and Power Whip is only distributed to 5 evolutionary families. Lowering the speed and raising an offense will accomplish nothing, all the speed points between 83 and 100 do not affect a Chlorophyll user competitively.
If this thing is going to lose Chlorophyll, I can imagine it not destroying everything. | |
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