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PostSubject: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyThu Jul 05, 2012 1:42 am

Read Before Voting!

The Nominations are complete, Cast your vote here, The options are:
Abstain: This means you aren't voting for that Pokemon at all.
Change: This means you want the Pokemon to Move from the tier it's currently in to the tier it was nominated to.
Keep: This means you want the Pokemon to Stay in the tier it was already in.
Any Pokemon with more Change votes than Keep votes will be changed. Any Pokemon with the same or less Change votes than Keep votes will remain in it's current tier.


Multiscale Dragonite

Standard -> Uber

Jirachi

Standard -> Uber

Infernape

Creative -> Standard

Azelf

Standard -> Creative

Alakazam

Creative -> Standard

Deoxys-D

Creative -> Standard

Starraptor

Standard -> Creative

Heracross

Standard -> Creative

Whimsicott

Standard -> Creative

Garchomp

Standard -> Uber

Tornadus-T

Standard -> Creative

Spoiler:

Oh and the vote closes July 12th at 11:59 PM EDT.


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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyThu Jul 05, 2012 12:00 pm

Multiscale Dragonite Abstain
Jirachi CHANGE
Infernape Change
Azelf Abstain
Alakazam Keep
Deoxys-D Keep
Starraptor Change
Heracross Keep
Whimsicott Abstain
Garchomp Keep, no shit somebody please tell me what's so bad about it
Tornadus-T Change
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyThu Jul 05, 2012 12:49 pm

Multiscale Dragonite Change
Jirachi Change
Infernape Change
Azelf Change
Alakazam Change
Deoxys-D Change
Starraptor Change
Heracross Change
Whimsicott Change
Garchomp Keep
Tornadus-T Change

These are just obvious changes that need to happen, we have no reason to be conservative about tier changes, the Pokemon are in the wrong tiers. I only disagree with Garchomp going Uber, that's just stupid, we already have Garchomp under control with Sand Veil + Sandstream banned.

As for an abstain vote, after the last vote I've seen what happens when people abstain. The smart people abstain thinking it will allow people who know more about it to make the decision. The problem with that is, idiots vote on everything. Abstaining is allowing the stupidest tier changes (or non-changes) to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyThu Jul 05, 2012 2:59 pm

Multiscale Dragonite keep
Jirachi keep
Infernape keep
Azelf change
Alakazam keep
Deoxys-D change
Staraptor Abstain
Heracross change
Whimsicott change
Garchomp keep (I said change during the nominations but I was really tired while I was voting, dun hate me >_>)
Tornadus-T Abstain
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyThu Jul 05, 2012 4:48 pm

Jirachi ----> Uber
Dragonite ---> Ubers
Azelf Creative
Alakazam Standard
Starraptor Creative
Deoxys D- Standard
Heracross Creatve
Garchomp Standard
Whimsicott- creative
Tornadus- T Standard
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyThu Jul 05, 2012 6:08 pm

Multiscale Dragonite Change
Jirachi Change
Infernape Change
Azelf Change
Alakazam Change
Deoxys-D Change
Starraptor Change
Heracross Change
Whimsicott Change
Garchomp Keep
Tornadus-T Change

Some of these votes are just housekeeping, except for Dragonite and Jirachi, which most people consider not housekeeping. They're broken, kids. You need a lengthy explanation, I'd be happy to give one. For now, to ubers, I say!
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyThu Jul 05, 2012 10:17 pm

Multiscale Dragonite Abstain (take THAT Invalid!)
Jirachi Change
Infernape Abstain
Azelf Change
Alakazam Keep
Deoxys-D Change
Starraptor Abstain
Heracross Change
Whimsicott Change to inspired
Garchomp Abstain
Tornadus-T Abstain
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 12:19 am

Multiscale Dragonite Keep
Jirachi Keep
Infernape Abstain
Azelf Change
Alakazam Abstain
Deoxys-D Abstain
Starraptor Abstain
Heracross Abstain
Whimsicott Change
Garchomp Abstain
Tornadus-T Keep

Honestly, many of these pokemon are better left to lower-tier experts; though I used to avidly play low tiers, I do not any more.
However, there are certain powerful threats that must remain in Standard, and certain laughingstocks that must gtfo.
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptySat Jul 07, 2012 8:11 pm

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Immanency, there are no 'lower-tier experts.' Our Creative ladder has 3 names and our Inspired ladder has 0.

Also you're a pretentious jackass.
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 12:30 am

Multiscale Dragonite - Keep in standard, as there are ways around Multiscale, and it clearly isn't Uber.

Jirachi - Keep in standard, as it is just obvious. Also, I haven't even seen one on my time at realgam recently.

Infernape - Keep in standard. While some may disagree, I still think that Infernape has its place in standard, because it has good enough speed, offenses, and moves to be revelant in standard.

Azelf - Change to creative, as it simply isn't the force it once was.

Alakazam - Keep in creative. I know that it has Magic Guard now, but I've been surprised of its lack of power against certain common Pokemon. It also has those paper thin defenses. which certainly don't help its case.

Deoxys-D - Keep in creative. It has great defenses and some nifty moves, but it has a horrible defensive and offensive typing, and it can't really do much on offense.

Staraptor - This is a tough decision for me. I'll vote to keep it in standard, as it has those reckless-powered moves with Close Combat, and it now can use Roost with Reckless.

Heracross - Change to creative. I can name at least three other fighting-typed Pokemon that are better than Heracross in most ways.

Whimsicott - Change to creative. This Pokemon was still in standard...really?

Garchomp - Keep in standard. True, it is still a force, but there are more Pokemon this generation that can combat it. We'll see if it overcentralizes our metagame like it did last generation, but I don't think that it really will.

Tornadus-T - Keep in standard. It has plenty of tools to function well, and it hasn't even been around standard that long. I would vote to keep in in standard fr now just because we haven't seen it enough.

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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptySun Jul 08, 2012 12:34 am

Guys I'm sorry I made a mistake, Infernape was supposed to be nominated from Creative to Standard, not from Standard to Creative, I will treat all votes prior to this update in the way they were meant to be cast. After this update a Keep will mean Creative and Change will mean Standard. Sorry about the mix up.
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 10:19 pm

Result Dragonite 3-3 Keep
Jirachi 5-3 Change
Infernape 4-1 Change
Azelf 7-0 Change
Alakazam 3-4 Keep
Deoxys-D 5-2 Change
Starraptor 4-1 Change
Heracross 6-1 Change
Whimsicott 7-0 Change
Garchomp 0-7 Keep
Tornadus-T 3-3 Keep
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PostSubject: Re: Tier Change Voting June 2012   Tier Change Voting June 2012 EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 10:21 pm

Changes
Jirachi > Uber
Infernape > Standard
Azelf > Creative
Deoxys-D > Standard
Starraptor > Creative
Heracross > Creative
Whimsicott > Creative
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